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Donald Trump impeachment trial live: Sarah Palin, Piers Morgan in wild interview - NEWS.com.au

Yes, that’s right, this thing is finally happening, more than a month since the Capitol riot and almost three weeks since Mr Trump left office.

There was good reason for the delay. It gave the former president time to prepare his defence, and gave the Senate time to deal with some essential business in the early days of the Biden administration. But we’re here now and ready to get underway.

So, how does it work? Simple. The trial is happening in the US Senate, with the 100 senators acting as jurors. The threshold for conviction is 67 votes – anything less, and Mr Trump will be acquitted. That means at least 17 members of his own party would have to vote against him.

In the unlikely event that such a thing happens, the Senate could then hold a vote to bar Mr Trump from running for office again.

He was impeached back on January 13, on a single charge: incitement of insurrection. The Democrats’ impeachment managers will argue Mr Trump was responsible for the violence that unfolded on January 6 as his supporters tried to stop Congress from counting the electoral votes by storming the Capitol.

Expect to hear a lot about the misinformation Mr Trump spouted after his election defeat, his speech to supporters in Washington D.C. just before the riot, and his response to the violence once it started.

Mr Trump’s legal team, meanwhile, is saying the trial is unconstitutional because he is no longer president.

That argument will dominate this first day of proceedings. Up to four hours have been set aside for a debate on the constitutionality issue, which will be followed by a vote to determine whether the trial proceeds.

We got a preview of how that vote will go late last month, thanks to a motion from Republican Senator Rand Paul, which sought to declare the trial unconstitutional. It was defeated 55-45, with five Republicans joining the Democrats.

Tensions are obviously running rather high, as we saw today on the UK morning show Good Morning Britain, of all places. The program invited former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on for an interview to talk about the trial, and it got tense fast.

For 13 minutes, Ms Palin argued with hosts Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid, who pushed back on her claims that there were sinister irregularities in the presidential election.

“There is no question (the mob) were whipped up because they believed their president, who told them the election had been stolen, fraudulently stolen. That was a lie, wasn’t it?” Morgan asked her.

“The president has been insisting, so many Americans have been insisting, that our elections are run legally and transparently. And when there were shenanigans, obviously, in so many of the polling areas, the president has insisted that we look into where all these votes had come from,” Ms Palin responded.

“But the election wasn’t stolen, was it Sarah Palin?” Morgan interjected.

“Let’s be honest. Let’s be clear. The election was won fair and square, by a thumping win by Joe Biden. Do you accept that?”

“I want to see that our elections, and every polling place, is run cleanly,” she said, at which point Reid jumped in.

“The question was, do you accept the election victory by Joe Biden?” she interjected.

“This is crazy. You guys invited me to come on. Let me finish please,” said Ms Palin.

“You didn’t answer my question!” said Morgan.

“Let me finish,” she repeated.

And so on.

You can read more about that fiery interview, along with all the other impeachment news, in our live coverage below.

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The House impeachment managers have filed a response to that brief I mentioned from Donald Trump's lawyers, saying it "confirms that he has no good defence".

They seem keen to stress that the charge against Mr Trump, "incitement of insurrection", does not just refer to the speech he gave to a crowd of supporters on January 6, but also includes his conduct in the months after the election.

"President Trump now studiously ignores all that preceded his speech and provided meaning and context to his statements, asking the Senate to do the same and focus only on a handful of his remarks in isolation," the managers say.

They also don't like the defence's argument that the trial is unconstitutional because Mr Trump is no longer president.

"Because President Trump's guilt is obvious, he seeks to evade responsibility for inciting the insurrection by arguing that the Senate lacks jurisdiction," they say.

"President Trump's jurisdictional argument is both wrong as a matter of constitutional law and dangerous as a matter of Senate practice.

"It would leave the Senate powerless to hold presidents accountable for misconduct committed near the end of their terms."

The tension emanating from Washington D.C. this morning extended all the way across the Atlantic as former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin went on Good Morning Britain to discuss the impeachment trial.

Ms Palin clashed repeatedly with hosts Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid, who pushed back on her claims about election irregularities throughout the 13-minute interview.

“There is no question (the mob) were whipped up because they believed their president, who told them the election had been stolen, fraudulently stolen. That was a lie, wasn’t it?” Morgan asked her.

“The president has been insisting, so many Americans have been insisting, that our elections are run legally and transparently. And when there were shenanigans, obviously, in so many of the polling areas, the president has insisted that we look into where all these votes had come from,” Ms Palin responded.

“But the election wasn’t stolen, was it Sarah Palin?” Morgan interjected.

“Let’s be honest. Let’s be clear. The election was won fair and square, by a thumping win by Joe Biden. Do you accept that?”

“I want to see that our elections, and every polling place, is run cleanly,” she said, at which point Reid jumped in.

“The question was, do you accept the election victory by Joe Biden?” she interjected.

“This is crazy. You guys invited me to come on. Let me finish please,” said Ms Palin.

“You didn’t answer my question!” said Morgan.

“Let me finish,” she repeated.

The rest of the interview continued in much the same fashion. Eventually, Morgan declared that Ms Palin was "bonkers".

“I say this with the utmost respect to you, you’re sounding totally bonkers," he told her.

“And part of the problem for the Republican party is that people like you, high level members, high profile members of the party are still perpetuating this utter load of nonsense."

‘There were shenanigans, obviously.’ @SarahPalinUSA responds to @Piersmorgan saying Joe Biden won the US Presidency by fair means.

She avoids answering whether she accepts Biden won legally.

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Donald Trump’s defence is being led by lawyers Bruce Castor, David Schoen and Michael van der Veen. Yesterday they filed a 75-page brief laying out their arguments in detail.

“During the past four years, Democrat members of the House of Representatives have filed at least nine resolutions to impeach Donald J. Trump, the 45th president of the United States, each containing charges more outlandish than the next,” the brief declared.

“One might have been excused for thinking that the Democrats’ fevered hatred for Citizen Trump and their ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ would have broken by now, seeing as he is no longer the president, and yet for the second time in just over a year the Senate is preparing to sit as a court of impeachment, but this time over a private citizen who is a former president.

“In this country, the Constitution – not a political party and not politicians – reigns supreme. But through this latest article of impeachment now before the Senate, Democrat politicians seek to carve out a mechanism by which they can silence a political opponent and a minority party. The Senate must summarily reject this brazen political act.

“The intellectual dishonesty and factual vacuity put forth by the House managers in their trial memorandum only serve to further punctuate the point that this impeachment proceeding was never about seeking justice.

“Instead, this was only ever a selfish attempt by Democratic leadership in the House to prey upon the feelings of horror and confusion that fell upon all Americans across the entire political spectrum upon seeing the destruction at the Capitol.

“Instead of acting to heal the nation, or at the very least focusing on prosecuting the lawbreakers who stormed the Capitol, the Speaker of the House and her allies have tried to callously harness the chaos of the moment for their own political gain.”

The core argument from the defence is that the trial is unconstitutional because Mr Trump is no longer in office. We'll see that point get debated at length in a few hours.

On top of that, though, his team is disputing each of the allegations contained in the article of impeachment on their merits.

For example, the former president’s lawyers have described the idea that his speech at a rally just before the Capitol riot on January 6 incited violence as “absurd”.

“Contrary to the false narrative set forth by the House managers, Mr Trump’s speech was never directed to inciting or producing any imminent lawless action,” they argued in yesterday's brief.

“It is important to read the speech in its entirety, because the House managers played shamefully fast and loose with the truth as they cherrypicked its content.

“(The) claim that he could be responsible if a small group of criminals (who had come to the Capitol of their own accord armed and ready for a fight) completely misunderstood him, were so enamoured with him and inspired with his words that they left his speech early, and then walked a mile-and-a-half away to ‘imminently’ do the opposite of what he had just asked for, is simply absurd.

“His statements cannot and could not reasonably be interpreted as a call to immediate violence or a call for a violent overthrow of the United States’ government.”

The brief said Mr Trump was engaging in political speech protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

It also rejected the argument that Mr Trump “did not act swiftly enough” to stop the violence, blaming “complex procedural elements involved in quelling a riot” for the time it took for law enforcement to reclaim control of the Capitol.

“There was a flurry of activity inside the White House working to mobilise assets,” it says, adding that Mr Trump was “horrified” by the actions of his supporters.

Welcome! Let's get this live coverage started with a breakdown of how the impeachment trial is going to unfold.

The proceedings kick off at 1pm in Washington D.C., which is 5am in Sydney. We'll start with a debate on whether or not the trial is constitutional, which could last up to four hours.

After that, the Senate will vote on the matter. Most Republican senators are expected vote against proceeding with the trial, but there aren't enough of them to form a majority.

Late last month, when one senator put forward a motion to declare the trial unconstitutional, it was defeated 55-45. We're probably heading for a similar margin later today.

With that out of the way, the prosecution – represented by nine impeachment managers from the House – will start to present its case from midday tomorrow.

The two sides will get 16 hours each to put forward their arguments, and then the senators will have four hours to pose any questions they might have.

There'll also be a brief debate on whether to subpoena witnesses or documents. We don't yet know whether the Democrats will seek to call witnesses. If they do, it will obviously lengthen the trial.

Finally, each side will get four hours for closing arguments, and then the senators will vote on whether or not to convict Donald Trump.

Keep the number 67 in mind – that's how many votes are needed for a conviction.

Also, you should be aware that the two sides have agreed to take a break from 5pm on Friday, so there will be no action that evening. They will continue to work over the weekend, however.

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