Senin, 30 November 2020

US politics live updates: Arizona certifies election results as Donald Trump clings to baseless 'fraud' claims - ABC News

Why do we say there isn't any evidence?

You said Trump lawyers were arguing without evidence while the AZ governor certified the results. How do you know they had no evidence when the hearing was not even finished?


Heya Rodney. A few other people have said this about other states too, so I thought I'd explain why I say this.

In Arizona specifically, both the Republican Governor and Democratic Secretary of State have said that the election was secure and there was no evidence of wrongdoing. In a lawsuit in Phoenix, Arizona last week a judge rejected a bid to delay the certification. The Trump campaign dropped other lawsuits in the state of its own volition.

The "hearing" you're mentioning also isn't legally binding in any way. It's best to think of it as just a meeting. It was hosted by nine Republican state politicians, and they were denied the permission to make it a formal process. It's basically a press conference.

Going broader than Arizona, and in lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit the Trump campaign just hasn't turned up any evidence of widespread fraud. The judges rulings in these cases have said as much. Here's Judge Matthew Brann's words from a decision in one case in Pennsylvania:

"One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence."

And leaving the courts, Donald Trump's own Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which is in charge of keeping the election secure, said this about the 2020 election:

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised. While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too."

So when I say there's no evidence, it's because there's no evidence. And I'm not making that up off my own bat. I'm taking the words of Democratic and Republican state officials, secretaries of states, governors, judges and top US cybersecurity agencies.

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